1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male–a hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles, and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Medea is a hero and why.

This may be the mother in me talking, but I do not care how much one would be hurt by their loved one marrying another, murdering the children that are shared between the two of you is in no way excusable. How does that even come across as okay, regardless of this culture or that culture at the time? There is no way the strongest feminist could ever convince me to remotely associate the character of Medea with the word, “hero” or any other adjective that could possibly make her seem anything other than what all the other characters in the book called her, EVIL! And I am just telling you how I really feel.

As for the similarities between Medea and Achilles, I could see personality-wise how one may correlate the two. Medea and Achilles both feel like they are owed something, both are overly prideful and their actions are both based majorly off of their emotions. Achilles was ready to give up his troops all over a girl and Medea was ready to kill everyone! Her children and the new bride of the father of her children. When in fact, on the lesson page of this discussion it says their relationship was never secured by law anyways. She was just a crazy woman who had the help of witch craft to do her disastrous ways.

For myself, personally, I cannot see the hero’s journey in any shape or form. Maybe the beginning one, the call to adventure, when she finds out about the wedding and she has to be exiled, but it is all down hill from there! Exile her, but do one better if you know a woman who has the personality traits of Medea, evil and smart, escort her out in chains!

2. Job (in chapter 31) makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God, and so he does not deserve the calamities that have fallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question at all. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power (42) and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?Book_of_Job

Job was always loyal to God, so in a natural, human reaction when bad things start to fall on him, he can not figure out why. Has anyone ever heard of the saying, “God’s favorites have a hard time,”? Not saying God has favorites, but I am sure you get where I am going with this. I mean of course Job has no words to say after even the third sentence of His answer, “Where were you when I founded this earth?” Like, that would seriously cripple every question I had ever asked of Him. I would be so quiet, plus could one imagine the power and strength behind His voice, even within the wind? Gah, chills.

After Yahweh has done more than answer what Job was asking, the ending says,

I knew You, but only by rumor,

My eye has beheld You today.

I retract. I even take comfort

for dust and ashes.

Wow. Job was truly satisfied with the answers he had been given, but who would not be? I love the ending of the dialogue. After Job’s suffering, he was blessed with thrice as much as had before and lived until 140 years old. The two that were not loyal to Yahweh had to give up what they had to Job and ask for him to pray for them.


Homer’s Illiad

1.  What are the differences and similarities between Achilles’ relationship with his fellow Achaeans and Hector’s relationship with his fellow Trojans?  Outline not only how these two warriors relate to those around them but to each other.

Hector is the leader of the Trojan Army.  A prince of Troy, he is the natural leader.  Troy’s finest warrior, he at times acts with rash behavior, typical of one who has no equal within his experience or close by.  The Trojan Army makes huge strides in gaining the upper hand due to the absence of Achilles and it is Hector’s leadership that takes them there.  His fellow warriors respect him, yet when he show’s flaws, they are more than willing to question his judgement or rebuke his occasional demonstration of cowardice.   Obviously a man of great character, his fellow Trojan’s do not fear him as an irrational leader, tending towards rage, so they feel free to offer comment, meaning no harm.  Hector, at the same time, can be rash, and shows this when he tells his friend, Polydamas that he isn’t inclined to allow his leadership to be usurped.  He is presesent among the army, they have been victorious, therefore they should not hide from the enemy.

In sharp contrast to Hector, is Achilles.  Achilles is the leader of the Myrmidons, his elite company of warriors.  Other Greek warriors practically worship Achilles and like a football team that needs its star quarterback to be successful on the football grid, the Achaeans or Greeks, miss their mark constantly without Achilles present.  Several times, the Greek leadership refer to the justified offense Achilles feels, understand his pride is in his way and is effecting them all, but like typical men who respect each other’s qualities and specifically, a right to protect one’s honor, they are unwilling to push Achilles too far.   His status among them gives him room to rage and act out without anyone interfering.  Perhaps they fear his rebuke, but also, they know him and how much of a fighter he is.  Just before Book XVI, Diomedes says, “He’ll fight later alright.  When he is ready, or a god tells him to.”  Agamemnon, the Greek Commander, literally resents Achilles place among the Greeks.

Demonstrating his lack of self-control or more likely, giving rein to his wrath, which will cost him, Achilles drags the body of Hector toward the ships.  Image public domain.

Demonstrating his lack of self-control or more likely, giving rein to his wrath, which will cost him, Achilles drags the body of Hector toward the ships. Image public domain.

These contrasting attributes show themselves again as Hector is attacked outside the walls of Troy, where he waited for the fateful encounter with Achilles.  Hector is ready to negotiate the terms of victory, Achilles is not, he can only see red at this point.  In the resultant fight, Hector’s body is mutilated, in spite of a dying plea that for his father’s sake, that it be honored in burial.  Hector has owned up to his faults, is willing to pay the dues for it.  Achilles, having lost Patroclus, knowing its a result of his own behavior, desires only to make Hector pay for it.  This makes Achilles look like the lesser man, even though his strength and cunning is greater than Hector’s, Hector’s character and integrity demand greater honor than Achilles is willing to accord him.  In Achilles eyes, Hector is nothing.

2.  What is it that brings Achilles back to balance after his berserk episode, and what significance can this transformation have, what does it communicate?

War is brutality in its purest form.  It is murder unleashed, without payment.  Yet the Iliad demonstrates that there is actually a payment to be made.   It is interesting to me here, that Homer uses the loss of Patroclus to trigger this maniac behavior in Achilles.  We believe that we go to war to serve our country.  And that is what we do.  A fireman serves the public.  But in both instances, what it comes down to in the end is the bond between warriors, those who suffer together.  Losing a member of the team, of the company of warriors, is often more difficult to deal with than the idea of losing ones own life.  The loss of a loved, brother warrior.  This is regardless of any failure on Patroclus’ part in the death.  He disobeyed orders of the leader of the Myrmidons, he let his own prowess get ahead of him, maybe he wanted to be like Achilles.  Here, as in the previous question, we see that Achilles, in spite of knowing his own part played in his grief, gives vent to it and Hector’s honor is trampled.  But really it is Achilles honor that suffers most.  His action is the berserk behavior of one effected by combat fatigue, today a well-known factor of war, but for many centuries, as aspect of war unknown to those who had not seen combat.  Although one could also argue that what is being displayed is simply rage at the enemy.   Both are recognized on the historic battlefield.  When the Sioux women punctured Custer’s ears with sewing awls made of bone, was it berserk behavior, or were they expressing hate, rage, or perhaps telling him he should have listened better?

Modern war has shown us that this "berserker" behavior exists.  Prior to World War I, its common presence was not well understood.

Modern war has shown us that this “berserker” behavior exists. Prior to World War I, its common presence was not well understood.

The modern wars as well as the wars of the old world were full of such moments.  What cools Achilles rage?  Time, spent rage leaves one exhausted and less likely to continue in brutality, but also Homer brings the god’s into action to use Hector’s father’s plea soften Achilles’ rage.  Priam, perhaps reminding Achilles much of his own father, demonstrates devotion to his son’s honor,  bravery in facing his son’s killer, and honorable behavior in the enemy’s camp.  He manages to get Achilles to think of how his own father would feel in the same situation, which Achilles knows is not far away.  This causes Achilles to feel strongly about releasing Hector’s body.  He also feels toward Priam as he might his own  elderly father, ensuring that Priam is safe, receives food and drink and a place to sleep, with Hector’s body secured.


3.  Book 22.  This scene speaks to the inner-tug these warriors feel between two distinct codes of behavior: 1. The Warrior Code and 2.  The Familial Code.  The first code is dependant upon Honor and  Victory:  the second on responsibility for offspring and spouse.  Are these two codes mutually exclusive?  Why or why not?

This question deserves the best answer I can give it.  It strikes so close to home.  I have been a warrior, wedded to the Code and I surrendered that position in order to abide by the Familial Code.  As a young man I longed for both and found them very incompatible.  When away overseas, which was much of the time, I longed to be back with my love in my arms, making a home and creating a family.  Yet, once away from the Warrior Code, it ate at me.  I found life without purpose, my occupations didn’t interest me, they seemed to lack any reward that I respected.   Money was not a factor.  I had wanted a wife and a home.  Once I had those things I longed to be a warrior again.  It was not the only factor in the failure of my marriage, but I’m convinced it played a role.  Without the Warrior Code to live up to, I felt unfulfilled and felt I had surrendered my identity.  Then came the fire service.

The Warrior Code is alive and well in the world as is the Familial Code. Balancing the two takes focused effort and daily  dedication to both, especially the family.  Photo public domain.

The Warrior Code is alive and well in the world as is the Familial Code. Balancing the two takes focused effort and daily dedication to both, especially the family. Photo public domain.

It took time and maturity, but my second marriage has survived the fire service, whose own Warrior Code is much like the military’s.  Driven warriors and driven firemen differ in mission, but not in intensity or desire for excellence. For a time, I think there was little difference in my approach to the Warrior Code present in the fire service.  I pursued it full force.  So many firefighters I know are that way.  Its runs in the blood, this drive to do the best you can, loving every minute of it, the reward being the thrill of the moment, the feeling of danger, the intense emotions, the respect of your peers, the intense realism of the service to the public.  Balancing the two codes takes a focused effort, coupled with dedication, daily demonstrated to both, especially the family.   Somewhere along the way, I realized I had two grown daughters and I could not remember much about being a Dad.  My wife, patient, loving, but willing to speak out, did so.  With the young twins, I had a second chance.  I realized that if I did not take her warning, the littlest ones would grow to adulthood without me, and we would all lose.  So I forced myself to change.  It was that or lose my role in the family. It hasn’t been easy.  All the extra things I did as a fireman, had to be paired back.  I had to say “no” to things that had brought me so far in my career.  I had to let someone else, get the Honor and Victory.  My reward has been great this time.

Hector balanced both, although in the end, it cost his family everything.  What choice did he have?  He either fought or his family suffered.  Failure meant they would lose him and their own lives.  He had no real option.  He didn’t ask for the war.  However, the Warrior Code is pulling at Hector as well.  Having lost honor and victory due to his fairly foolish decision to keep the Trojan warriors camping exposed, he now is faced with having to earn his honor back.  This shortens his life, his families security, and Troy’s fate is clinched.  Achilles chooses the Warrior Code intentionally, for honor and glory’s sake, knowing it is going to cost him his life.  To him the Familial Code has less grip than it did on Hector.  He also had the use of many war trophies as concubines, perhaps making the pull of family less intense.  In today’s world, some who follow the Warrior Code, do very poorly at balancing it with the Familial Code.  Those who put the Familial Code first, all the time, are not the best of warriors.  Those who long to be both, struggle more than the other two.  Always caught in between.  They tend to be deeply loved by their peers for their efforts among the warriors, and deeply loved by their family at home.  Constantly torn.   I am willing to be torn.






Hi Everybody, I’m Michaela!

Hello, My name is Michaela Wenzlick and I am a sophomore at UAF shooting for a Bachelor’s degree in Business  Administration.  I was born in Alaska and I love it here. I have a big family who owns a construction business which has helped to inspire me to go for a Business degree. I enjoy long bike rides, rollerblading, hiking, road trips around Alaska, fishing trips to Chitna, and going to my family’s cabin on the Salcha river.

This is my first online class! I choose to take it online because it fits  around my work schedule and other classes as well. Plus I had Popa for English 211, a few semesters ago and her class was great!

I look forward to learning about  Literature from around the World. The last I learned about it was in high school and it was a brief over view; from what I can remember. I am pretty excited and hope to get a better grasp about world literature. Thanks!

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He pee's on everything. Which drives me crazy, but he's still my favorite!

This is Lannon! He pee’s on everything. Which drives me crazy, but he’s still my favorite!