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Medea and Job

1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male–a hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles, and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Medea is a hero and why.

While reading Medea, I was quite appalled by her character.  Many people I have seen face misfortunes, heart break, diseases, and none of which have reacted nearly as harsh.  Granted this is a mythical story, however, portraying a character that is so selfish, prideful, and full of hate makes the story very deep and moving.  Achilles was very prideful as well, however, his consideration and love for his friends overcame him and he was able to return to his senses.  Medea on the other hand is blinded by her rage and kills her children.  A hero is one who is somewhat idolized by others, achieves a greater good, has outstanding qualities, and makes one want to sympathize with them.  Medea is none of these. None of her quantities make me want to idolize her or revere her in anyway, and along with murdering her children, I don’t think that she was a heroic figure at all.

2. Job (in chapter 31) makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God, and so he does not deserve the calamities that have fallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question at all. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power (42) and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?

   First of all, why not Job?  What makes anyone above such calamities?  Years ago during Hurricane Katrina, I remember hearing an interview of an elderly woman on the radio.  The reporter was asking her how she felt about it and why her, she responded by saying “Why not me?”.  I thought that that response was so wise and brought up such good point.  2 Corinthians 1:9  says “Indeed, we felt we had received the sentence of death. But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God,  who raises the dead.”  Interestingly enough, a quote from Medea made me think of Job as well, lines 128-29 “God indeed, when in anger, brings Greater ruin to great men’s houses.”

I believe that Job was in acceptance of his circumstances and new that God was in charge and had the attitude that the elderly woman had during Hurricane Katrina, why not me?  I was satisfied, although I felt incredibly bad for the hardships and misfortunes he endured, but I think that he became more of a heroic figure  and set a great example with his faith in God.

Madea; Sappho; Ancient Egyption Poetry; The Hebrew Bible

  1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male–a hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles, and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Medea is a hero and why.

Madea and Achilles both have the same thought process. If we recall, Achilles was glory driven. He did not care what happened to those along his journey, as long as he got what he wanted. It took him up until it was almost too late to realize what he had been doing. Madea was very upset about her husband, Jason, marrying another woman. She did not care what happened as long as she could light a spark in Jason. She even killed her own children! As you can see, neither Madea nor Achilles were thinking clearly. They took advantage of what they had, despite those that they hurt along the way.

I don’t believe Madea was a hero. Yes, she stood up for herself and fought for what she wanted. However, her children didn’t have to be murdered. No matter how mad she was at her husband, she did not have to take the lives of her children just to get back at him. There is no justifying it. I’m sure there were other things that she could have done to get under his skin.

 

 

  1. Job (in chapter 31) makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God, and so he does not deserve the calamities that have fallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question at all. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power (42) and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?

Job did not press for an answer from God because he was without a doubt, one hundred percent faithful to God. Even if he didn’t like a particular circumstance, he would find the positives behind it. In doing this, he proved to God how generous he was. The questions that Job was asked were rhetorical in God’s eyes. In speaking how he honestly thought, God threw great perspectives back into Job’s hands. He was very pleased with the way he had answered the question. He was satisfied with what he was given because it came from God. He believes that God wouldn’t give something to someone who wasn’t willing of it. I did find the end of the dialogue to be satisfactory! It showed me that even when you aren’t thinking positively, something great could come from it!

Week 4- Medea and Job

1.  First off, I would just like to say that Medea was a terrible person.  The fact that she made the choice to kill her two kids when she could have taken them with her should speak for itself that she is not a hero.  Also, the fact the she was always plotting revenges to kill people and full of jealousy and envy are serious negatives when it comes to traits that define a hero.  When in comparison to Achilles, no I do not think that they compare.  Don’t get me wrong, I didn’t think Achilles was a textbook good citizen, but at least he only harmed others when it was to protect people he loved and his city.  I do think Achilles was very arrogant but even he was able to work out his problems somewhat in the end.  Medea was so set on getting her revenge that it drew her to drastic actions such as killing her own children.  For this reason, I do not believe that she should be classified as a hero.

2.  Job had a very deep and meaningful faith and beliefs in God.  He was virtuous and always believed that God would carry out for him.  This is shown in the instance where he asks God for an explanation on the bad events happening in his life and he is not given an answer that he can accurately interpret.   Even though he is not able to get the new he wants, this does not alter or even really shake up Job’s faith.  He doesn’t ask for more because even though he is distraught, he still knows that God will come through.  He is satisfied about the events and how things ended up because he knows that God will provide for the for the righteous and he is given twice as much as he originally had.  I think the end of the story was satisfactory because I am a christian and I can understand this thinking.  I do not always think that I am as patient as Job was but I still try to have the same principles.  I liked that in the end, Job was rewarded for staying true to his faith.

Medea

1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male–a hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles, and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Medea is a hero and why.

I do not think that Medea is a hero, killing your own children is a weak and ruthless thing to do. There is no reason for this, she could have easily taken her kids and fled. She was even banished because people were afraid of her. There is not one thing about her that makes her a hero, she is just a murder and a coward. When compared to Achilles, they have the same personality in they feel they are owed something and they act before thinking.

2. Job (in chapter 31) makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God, and so he does not deserve the calamities that have fallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question at all. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power (42) and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?

Job had faith in God and continued to have faith in him even while Satan was casting hard events upon his life. Jobs does not question God because he himself could not answer any of Gods questions. God reminded him that he created everything and that even though he can not see God, he sees us so we must always do good and trust him.  I find the end of the dialogue satisfactory, I personally believe that if we keep faith and stay positive that everything work out, and this story shows that type of belief as well.

1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male–a hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles, and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Medea is a hero and why.

This may be the mother in me talking, but I do not care how much one would be hurt by their loved one marrying another, murdering the children that are shared between the two of you is in no way excusable. How does that even come across as okay, regardless of this culture or that culture at the time? There is no way the strongest feminist could ever convince me to remotely associate the character of Medea with the word, “hero” or any other adjective that could possibly make her seem anything other than what all the other characters in the book called her, EVIL! And I am just telling you how I really feel.
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As for the similarities between Medea and Achilles, I could see personality-wise how one may correlate the two. Medea and Achilles both feel like they are owed something, both are overly prideful and their actions are both based majorly off of their emotions. Achilles was ready to give up his troops all over a girl and Medea was ready to kill everyone! Her children and the new bride of the father of her children. When in fact, on the lesson page of this discussion it says their relationship was never secured by law anyways. She was just a crazy woman who had the help of witch craft to do her disastrous ways.

For myself, personally, I cannot see the hero’s journey in any shape or form. Maybe the beginning one, the call to adventure, when she finds out about the wedding and she has to be exiled, but it is all down hill from there! Exile her, but do one better if you know a woman who has the personality traits of Medea, evil and smart, escort her out in chains!

2. Job (in chapter 31) makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God, and so he does not deserve the calamities that have fallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question at all. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power (42) and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?Book_of_Job

Job was always loyal to God, so in a natural, human reaction when bad things start to fall on him, he can not figure out why. Has anyone ever heard of the saying, “God’s favorites have a hard time,”? Not saying God has favorites, but I am sure you get where I am going with this. I mean of course Job has no words to say after even the third sentence of His answer, “Where were you when I founded this earth?” Like, that would seriously cripple every question I had ever asked of Him. I would be so quiet, plus could one imagine the power and strength behind His voice, even within the wind? Gah, chills.

After Yahweh has done more than answer what Job was asking, the ending says,

I knew You, but only by rumor,

My eye has beheld You today.

I retract. I even take comfort

for dust and ashes.

Wow. Job was truly satisfied with the answers he had been given, but who would not be? I love the ending of the dialogue. After Job’s suffering, he was blessed with thrice as much as had before and lived until 140 years old. The two that were not loyal to Yahweh had to give up what they had to Job and ask for him to pray for them.

 

Madea & Job

 

Madea

1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male- A hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Madea is a hero and why.

 

At first, I had believed that Madea would be a hero, who represented a facet of society that had been misrepresented and given unfair roles in their culture. As a protagonist, Madea is sentenced to exile, after her husband takes the princess of Corinth as his bride. Not only has her heart been ripped out and her children with Jason have now lost a father, but she is sentence into exile because she is clever and apparently this is a poor and dangerous quality for a woman to have in this type of situation. I believed that Madea would bring a redeeming quality to women and justice in the balance of the storyline, but this is the point where her character goes astray and becomes the anti-hero. Like Achilles, her pride is damaged and she feels spited for she has given all for Jason, including the death of her brother and and scorn of her father. Achilles felt his honor had been stolen with the taking of his love Briseis, which is similar to the love of Jason being stolen by arranged marriage. Both of these situations played as the catalyst for these “hero’s” actions. As it plays out, Madea is willing to sacrifice her own children, in order to hurt Jason in a most discrete manner. This sacrifice is similar to that of Achilles praying for the Trojans to gain ground upon his fellow Greeks as revenge upon the honor of Agamemnon. Their spiteful nature and pride are the two most similar qualities that Madea and Achilles possess, but ultimately Achilles can be viewed as a hero of the Greeks, while Madea is seen as a mad woman, even by those close to her. Madea poisons the princess of Cornith, which spreads to her father and also causes him to perish in a violently horrifying manner and intends to murder her children to spite Jason. At one point, Madea is hesitant in murdering her children giving hope that she will snap out of her rage and redeem herself in some way. Madea states in lines 1031-1035, “Do not, O my heart, you must not do these things! Poor heart, let them go, have pity upon the children. If they live with you in Athens they will cheer you. No! By Hell’s avenging furies it shall not be,–” In this quote, Madea gives up her last sentiment of morals and ultimately takes the role of the anti-hero. I could not justify calling her a hero of any depiction, unless she was a hero of a masochist. I do believe that this could be where the saying, “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned” may have come from.

2. Job makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God and so he does not deserve the calamities that have befallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?

Job is awe struck that he even receives a response to his rant. He had only heard of God through “rumor” and is completely taken aback by the assertion of God’s power. God never does give a direct response as to why all of this undeserved grief fell upon Job, but through all the references that God makes to creation and his place vs. Job’s place in the world, the point is certainly made that Job had no right to question why. Job states that he will put his hand to his lips and not speak again, more fearful than ever that he would bring judgement upon himself. This challenge in itself, which Job had finally claimed publicly, with his visitors present, is pride for the ways that Job believes that he has lived. By the end of Gods depiction of reality and his directions, Job is satisfied with living and therefore no long needs justification for he has learned his place. After fulfilling God’s directions, Jobs prior assets are doubled and he is given new sons and daughters to replace what he has lost, which brings great fulfillment to Job. I found the end of the dialogue to be interesting because I believe that Job says something that many may say in the same situation, “I knew You, but only by rumor.”

Job Bible

 

Madea y Job

1)

She does not fully fit the character of Achilles, in so far as she is not honorable or epic from might and valor. Medea not only kills her brother and children, she also conjured a way for her father to be killed. So, sure, her deeds could be considered epic, not in a hero sense, but in a villainous one. All of her actions were for her and her own “happiness,’ driving her depression after each attempt at archiving her apex of self worth. Going against the “familial code’ and what could be argued the “hero’s code,’ she puts forth a display not notable in terms of hero. Killing his loved ones would be the last wish of Achilles; in fact it wasn’t always his wish on his enemies either.

I think it is safe to say Madea would be considered a hero, but not necessarily in terms of compassion or valor, but rather for protest against socially normalized duties based on sex (biological sexes). She was against female oppression, although only when it allowed her anger to complete horrible acts of revenge. But a hero in terms of Homeric lore, she was definitely the contrary, she did not fight for people or for a noble cause, she fought in an un-noble conniving way, often involving her not getting her hands dirty.

She destroyed everything she loved, and made sure everything she lost suffered out of spite and out of rage. She does fit Achilles in that she is only concerned with her self, just as Achilles has no king, fighting only for glory to extend the remembrance of his name and victories.

2)

Nothing sometimes is the only answer needed; the one who is answerless reaches the conclusion and thus the moral of the story. The conclusion Job reached is acceptance, the “faith,’ in this god character to decide what is meant to happen, but only after a history of complaint and arrogant boasting. Therefore, when god finally did answer him, it was a serious rebuttal, casting shame to Job for his assertion of his divinity.

Perhaps through listing off everything evil he has not done, which according to Job is proof he was good, he missed the main purpose of why he was good to begin with, and through showing the evil he did not do, he was over casting the reasons he did not do them in the first place.

The real question is, is Job so superior that he above all others disserves good fortune? It’s hard to say, because often-old texts like this are rattled with ambiguity, that is why I think the moral to take away from this is that no one is above others and we each get judged equally, in the religious metaphorical sense. Job had some complaining issues directed at god and even by asserting his goodness, he was still complaining. Through showing all his holy qualities he showed his weakness.

There is an Old Norse saying, which I feel correlates well with this story:

“It’s better being alive than lying lifeless; the living man keeps his cow; I saw a fine fire burn bright for a rich man while he lay dead at the door.’ (McDonald and Somerville, 2010:492).

That is to say, even when someone has everything (morality, wealth, etc.), they still have nothing in the end (end here being god’s “grace) or end in reality, which is death. We all must appreciate what we have, rather than living off what we lack.

Euripides Madea and The Book of Job

1. Madea is a woman, but Euripides has presented her as a figure previously thought of as exclusively male–a hero. Analyze her character in the play with that of Achilles, and conclude with a judgement on whether or not you think Medea is a hero and why.

I remember this poster from the library years ago, I wondered what the story was.  No that I know, I think it portrays Madea's character very effectively.  Alluring, dangerous, cunning and tragic.  Photo in public domain.

I remember this poster from the library years ago, I wondered what the story was. No that I know, I think it portrays Madea’s character very effectively. Alluring, dangerous, cunning and tragic. Photo in public domain.

Euripedes has indeed shown Madea as the tragic hero in his play, although the character is not on the “Hero’s Journey” exactly and the term should perhaps be applied rather lightly.   She is the main character, she is the dominant personality in the story and the rise of intensity in the story builds to the climax around her actions.   However, as for being imbued with traditionally “male” qualities, I disagree.     I think Madea is very much a woman in thought and action.   I don’t consider anything about her behavior to be overly man-like, but the opposite.   Women can be very skilled, very independent and very resolute.   Maybe these are attributes normally accorded to males in Greek tradition, but I think that is assuming to much about something written so long ago.   Her actions, like Achilles in Homer, are initiated out of a deep sense of injured pride and honor.   A women like Madea does not strike me as the type that is likely to find herself defenseless and homeless for long.   She is too cunning and self-reliant for such fears to hold her back for long.   No, her motivation is injured pride and in that, she is more like Achilles than in any other way.   Like the Greek warrior, Madea has a horrid temper which carries her farther perhaps than rational thinking would allow for.   In lines 105 – 115, she gives voice to her injury, and the nurse, listening, expresses a knowledge of her mistresses’ character flaw, “In that cloud of her cries that is rising with a passion increasing.   Oh, what will she do, proud-hearted and not to be checked on her course, a soul bitten into with wrong?”   And like the famous warrior, Madea’s rage is taken out on members of her own close circle.   Achilles called to Zeus to strike the “Greeks” (an inclusive group that he belonged to), and Madea expresses hate of her own children, revealing a mind that perceives not only husband but anything involving the husband as the target of her anger.   She cries, “Ah, I have suffered what should be wept for bitterly.   I hate you , children of a hateful mother.   I curse you and your father.   Let the whole house crash.” (114)   The nurse continues to outline the fairly psychotic anger Madea gives herself over to, “…Great people’s tempers are seldom checked, dangerous they shift from mood to mood.   How much better …”   (120).   Madea also shows herself like Achilles in that her chosen method of triumph over her enemies goes beyond mere defeat, but having vanquished with poison, she chooses a poison that is particularly violent and its method of application so vicious that others are sure to fall with the primary intended victim.   She goes overboard.   Her children’s sacrifice, are a last act of vicious hatred, murdered to “rub it in” to Jason’s pitiful character.

Although there are certainly a few hallmarks of the Hero’s Journey such as the “Call to Adventure” and the wizened mentor, guardian (the witchcraft and sorcery available to Madea), she is not bringing anything to her family or society for its betterment and she is not in the end, a re-born victor, but simply a further degradation of an already horribly flawed character.   Euripides may have used her as a tragic heroine, but Madea fails to qualify for “hero” status.

2. Job (in chapter 31) makes the claim that his life has been virtuous and devoted to the worship of God, and so he does not deserve the calamities that have fallen on him. He asks God for an answer, but the voice from the whirlwind does not deal with his question at all. Why does Job accept God’s assertion of divine power (42) and not press for an answer to his question? Why is he satisfied with what he is given? Do you find the end of the dialogue satisfactory?

In reading Job, one tends to get lost in the arguments, then when you finally reach the end and find Yahweh’s reaction to Job, it is so clear what He is saying, it seems almost overly harsh and clearly whirlwind like.   I have a mental image of the four men hunched over the fire pit and the blast of God’s voice is like a sudden gust of wind (but more intense), flipping over the kettle and their beards are flapping up in their faces from the blast.

"Job, how long are you going to go on like this?"  Nothing quite like the help of understanding friends!  Photo pinched off the Internet.

“Job, how long are you going to go on like this?” Nothing quite like the help of understanding friends! Photo pinched off the Internet.

Job’s mistake is not being unrighteous, nor is it that he deserved the affliction he has received or the suffering he has had to bear for his losses.   Yahweh never actually takes him to task over his questioning.   Job has actually clearly staked his claim in Yahweh’s camp, several times throughout the book, stating the rightness of God’s character and sovereignty in all of creation as its author.   Job’s request to God, as the one who “numbers all my steps”, is to know his wrongs so that he may account for them.   He longs to know what he has done.   For in his debate with his three friends, he not only maintains his innocence, but defies the idea that just because someone is suffering does not mean they have done something to deserve it.   This leads him to say   “If my step has left the path, if my heart has obeyed my eye, if anyone’s goods have stuck to my palms, may I sow for another to eat;   may my offspring be uprooted…” (Job 31)   He continues on in this vein.   His real mistake is not his question of not what have I done wrong, but in implying that there must be some mistake,..This implication is made through too much assumption about what is seen.   “I know how your mind works…” (10)   Yahweh’s reply is, “Who dares speak darkly words with no sense?”(38)

I like Yahweh’s next comment, …”Where were you when I founded the earth?”   (I love that!), and “Speak, if you have any wisdom:   Who set its measurements, if you know, laid out the building lot, stretching the plumb line?” (38)   Clearly Job has tapped into deeper water then anticipated.   Yahweh helps him see this in two basic thought lines;   “Can you explain the Universe?”   and “Do you understand right and wrong as much as you think you do?”.   In both cases, Job is pretty much gobsmacked.   He very humbly accepts that he is way out of his depth and although Yahweh does not directly answer Job’s question, Job gets an answer, so he shuts up.   Yahweh is saying that even though Job has made observations about God, he doesn’t understand what he doesn’t see.   There is much more going on than Job is privy to and this has led him to imply that God has used poor judgement.   This is clearly the only thing that God chooses to bring Job to account for.   “Would you really annul my judgement, make me out to be guilty, and put yourself in the right?” (40).   Now, if I were to have such an encounter with the Creator of all things, I think I would shut up as well.   I’m impressed that Job has the courage to even mutter a reply.   I don’t think I could do that.   It strikes me that it would take an insanely arrogant individual to speak out against a god that has made himself physically apparent in such a way.   Achilles and heroes like him were apparently imbued with such arrogance, but they were also dealing with gods that did not have the same credentials.   I think this encounter with God is satisfactory to Job because it is more than he ever expected.   God has told him that if you are going to take the Creator of All Things to court, you should know what you’re talking about.   Job gets it.

God calls himself 'Yah'.  The word means "I AM".  I think that is a fitting name for the god portrayed in Job.

God calls himself ‘Yah’. The word means “I AM”. I think that is a fitting name for the god portrayed in Job.   It implies that there is far more to this god than man can ever know.

The dialogue ends very well to my mind, as the reader has endured man’s endless assumptions and diatribes about how things work or should be, and how God is and isn’t.   God sets the record of man’s grasp of the situation straight, then it finishes with Job saying, “I knew You, but only by rumor, my eye has beheld You today,.   I retract.   I even take comfort for dust and ashes”.   Job’s answer corresponds with what he has been told by Yahweh.   We are reading and analyzing this excerpt as literature.   However, I think that regardless of what one believes, if indeed such as Yahweh exists, what other reaction could you have?

 

Week 4

1. Medea is first portrayed as a victim of fate. She stands by her husband, Jason, when they are exiled to a foreign country, she even kills her own brother in the process. In return for her loyalty to Jason, he deserts her and their two children. He seeks to marry Glauce, the daughter of the King of Corinth, Kreon. Corinthian women sympathized with Medea and admire her and believe she is the avenger of all women, after she tells them her plan for revenge. She devises a plan to kill Jason, Glauce, and Kreon. Medea sends a poisoned dress and corset to Glauce which kills her and then kills Kreon also. Medea shows the beginning of her evilness when she wants details from the messenger on their painful death. As if this wasn’t enough, to add even more pain and suffering to Jason, Medea commits the most unspeakable, unmoral act of killing her own two children. The difference between her character and that of Achilles is that he was a hero and Medea was a hero to villain. Medea was pride driven and took her own blood’s lives for revenge int the end. Achilles was a hero in that he fought for those he loved and for the city. Achilles would never bring harm to his own family, but only harm to those who harmed him. I do no feel that Medea was a hero because in the end she let her own personal revenge lead her to killing her own children.

2. Job was virtuous, he did obey God. When satan and God discussed a plan to prove Job’s faithfulness to God, God allowed satan to cast bad events in Job’s life and Job continued to be faithful. Job’s friends told him that he had probably done something to upset God or did evil things and God was punishing him. When God spoke to Job in a whirlwind Job asked why God had let these bad things happen to him. He asked why good thing happen to bad people and why bad things happen to good people. God told Job that people should not discuss divine justice since God’s power is so great that humans cannot possibly justify his ways. Because of Job’s faithfulness to God, he didn’t need anymore explanation. God blessed him with twice as much as he had had before. He was satisfied because he knew that God gives all of his faith people what they need. I believe that the end of the dialogue is satisfactory because I have faith in the unseen so I can relate to Job’s acceptance of God’s reasoning.

DQ 4

Neither Media or Achilles are what I would call heroes because heroes are individuals that perform extraordinary deeds that serve others beyond themselves. Achilles is so consumed with himself that it prevents him from ever really becoming a hero. He often simply takes action due to how he feels which is what drives him to withdrawal from the war and get Zeus to put the Trojans on the winning side. Media on the other hand is driven to a very terrifying extent by both her stalker type love for Jason and her own perceived status among people. This explains why she has no problem killing her brother and her children without expressing any sort of regret.   Which points far more to being a sociopath rather than a hero.

To perform the actions that Media took to take her revenge she definitely did break out of the role of the regular greek female. I’d say that taking that action is defiantly to be admired but it is transformed to become not something that would promote change but destroy the chance for it. This is because Media a strong capable woman is presented as having confronted with something that occurs in greek society like the discarding of her marriage. With her reaction to this being to kill everyone who is involved in her life except for Jason. Starting with her own children and ending with burning to death her husbands wife and new father in law. Thats pretty terrifying and does not say that if you let a woman be an individual good things happen and this should be encouraged. Instead it says that if you let women be smart and capable they will be sociopaths and kill everyone who so much as says no to them. Which I don’t think is a very welcoming message for part of human society.

Job accepts the Yahweh’sassertion of divine power because it provides perspective. He gains this because Yahweh starts to describe the entirety of creation from the center of the earth to the birth patterns of an antelope. Which allows Job to see beyond himself and consider his condition compared to the rest of creation. Seeing beyond himself in this manner shows Job how inconsequential he is and this is what quiets him.

I do find the end of the dialogue between God and Job satisfactory. I feel this way because at the end of the dialogue it becomes more than Job complaining about his life. Instead it steps into a perspective into life showing how the ancient jews attempted to explain why bad things happen to good people. Showing that you aren’t the center of creation and sometimes there are things that are happening in the world that prevent your desires from coming first.